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Thoughts on path to BA for drug/alcohol counselors |
Posted by: studyingfortests - 03-28-2024, 03:23 PM - Forum: Degree Planning Advice
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Hi, folks.
In my job, I work with a lot of drug/alcohol counselors. In CA, the SUDCC/CADC/CATC credential (same credential, we have three completely separate certifying bodies for some reason) requires only about 10 college classes. Further, two of the three certifying bodies will accept certificates from schools that have no accreditation; they are basically trade schools that provide education of highly variable quality. The result is many students completed their drug/alcohol schooling through these schools of questionable quality, and the credits are thus unlikely to transfer to a legitimate college or university.
I am often asked about degree planning for these folks, since many want to go on to MFT/LPC/MSW graduate degrees.
Also, these counselors typically are working at very low wages (for their responsibilities) by CA standards; often $20-25/hour, so they don't have a lot of money to pay for schooling.
Finally, many of these counselors are, themselves, in recovery, which typically (but certainly not always) means they lack academic preparation, but those who are pursuing higher education do have a high degree of motivation to better themselves.
Would Sophia + Pierpoint likely be the best route to start their journey? Or UMPI? The only concern about UMPI is it seems to have more picky general ed requirements including math and foreign language that either don't exist at TESU, or are easier to fulfill (math via CSMLearn, for example). But the problem with TESU is that they will hae to pay the $3500 waiver, which, as I understand, cannot be covered with student loans. Most counselors will have no way to get the $3500, and since most also work full time, they are likely to have difficulty going the full semester 15 credit route to save money that way.
Thoughts?
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Education Programs - Undergrad & Grad |
Posted by: RachelB - 03-27-2024, 06:32 PM - Forum: Degree Planning Advice
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Hi everyone! There isn't much information here on education programs, and it's not all in one place, so since I would have found it helpful for myself, I'm compiling a list of the top colleges that are fast, cheap, or accept lots of alt credits, and what programs they have available... at a glance. Hopefully, this will help someone else!
Note: I have not included doctoral level programs in this list.
UMPI (University of Maine at Presque Isle) (YourPace)
WGU (Western Governors University)
Undergraduate programs (Leads to license) – Programs leading to teacher certification will involve you finding your own student teaching placement in your local area.
Non-Licensure Bachelors
Masters
Masters (for those who are already licensed teachers)
Masters (Leading to licensure - you will likely need to arrange your own student teaching experience)
COSC (Charter Oak State College)
Associates
Bachelors
TESU (Thomas Edison State University)
Graduate Certificates
Masters
(I got lazy with links at this point, so only linked the schools...)
Liberty University
Note: This is a Christian school.
Associates
- A.A. Early Childhood Education
- A.A. Education (non-licensure)
Bachelors
- B.S. Early Childhood Education Interdisciplinary Studies
- B.S. Special Education in Interdisciplinary Studies
- B.Ed. Special Education
- B.Ed. Elementary Education- Special Education
- B.Ed. Elementary Education
- B.S. Elementary Education in Interdisciplinary Studies
- B.Ed. Elementary Education - Middle Grades English
- B.Ed. Elementary Education - Middle Grades Social Science
- B.Ed. Elementary Education - Middle Grades Mathematics
- B.Ed. Elementary Education - Middle Grades Science
- B.Ed. Middle Education
- B.Ed. Middle Education - Math
- B.Ed. Middle Education - English
- B.Ed. Middle Education - Social Sciences
- B.Ed. Middle Education - Science
- B.Ed. Mathematics Education (6-12)
- B.Ed. Business Education (6-12)
- B.Ed. Social Studies Education (6-12)
- B.Ed. English Education (6-12)
- B.Ed. Physics Education - Earth Science (6-12)
- B.Ed. Physics Education (6-12)
- B.S. Biblical and Educational Studies- Biblical and Theological Studies
Master of Arts in Teaching
- Elementary Education
- Middle Grades Education
- Secondary Education
- Special Education - Adapted Curriculum
- Special Education - Early Childhood Education
- Special Education - General Curriculum
Master of Arts in Teaching to Education Specialist
- Elementary Education Curriculum
- Middle Education Curriculum
- Secondary Education Curriculum
Master of Education
- Administration and Supervision
- Math Specialist Endorsement
- Reading Specialist Endorsement
- School Counseling
Master of Education - Curriculum and Instruction
- Early Childhood Education
- Educational Technology and Online Instruction
- Elementary Education
- English
- Foreign Language Education
- General Education
- Gifted Education
- Health and Wellness
- History
- Leadership
- Middle Grades
- Special Education
- Student Services
- Urban Education
Master of Education - Higher Education
- Educational Leadership
- Instructional Design and Technology
- Student Affairs
Master of Education - Special and Gifted Education
ACE (American College of Education)
Has a variety of affordable Master's programs, all online (under $10k ea)
(Technically, has a couple undergrad programs, too, but they're cheaper/faster/etc from the other colleges above)
- M.A. in Elementary Teaching
- M.A. in Secondary Teaching
- M.Ed. in Early Childhood Education
- M.Ed. in Elementary Education
- M.Ed. in Adult Education and Training
- M.Ed. in Advanced Studies
- M.Ed. in Higher Education
- M.Ed. in Biology Education
- M.Ed. in Chemistry Education
- M.Ed. in Science Education
- M.Ed. in English Education
- M.Ed. in Teaching English Learners
- M.Ed. in Literacy
- M.Ed. in Health and Wellness Education
- M.Ed. in History Education
- M.Ed. in STEM Education
- M.Ed. in Mathematics Education
- M.Ed. in Social Science Education
- M.Ed. in Special Education
- M.Ed. in Curriculum and Instruction
- M.Ed. in Integrated Curriculum
- M.Ed. in Instructional Design and Technology
- M.Ed. in Educational Technology
- M.Ed. in Educational Leadership
- M.Ed. in Teacher Leadership
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Question regarding transfer credit courses |
Posted by: jobojoe285 - 03-27-2024, 11:25 AM - Forum: WGU - Western Governors University Discussion
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Hello, I am currently in the process of setting up some excel sheets with all courses that are eligible for credit transfers as well as all courses from Sophia, etc.
My question is most likely quite obvious, but I want to be 100% sure so I don't potentially waste time and money on the wrong course.
Looking at https://partners.wgu.edu/home, some partners seem to offer multiple courses options for 1 WGU course (example being the first course, the english class)6.
For "composition: successful self-expression", Sophia gives you 3 choices. From what I understand, I can do 1 of those 3 and I can transfer for 3 credits.
The https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/WG...egree_Plan wiki shows English Composition I/II or Workplace Writing II. From what I understand, to get the 3 credits I need to finish Sohpia English Composition 1 and English Composition 2 classes or Workplace Writing 2. In the partner page above, I think ENG1002 is English Composition 2 in the sophia website. Would I have to do composition 1 + 2 because there is a requirement (as in Sophia tells you that you cannot take Eng composition 2 before you finish Eng Composition 1)?
I guess I am mostly looking to understand (before I get the free trials / subscriptions) these 3rd party course sites requirements and if they make it obvious for what classes I need to get (or when I can enroll in them).
Does this make sense, or am I rambling ( a known problem for me )?
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Inspirational Message - Embrace Your Potential and Ignite Your Passion! |
Posted by: bjcheung77 - 03-27-2024, 11:01 AM - Forum: General Education-Related Discussion
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Got an inspiring message in my spam folder, it may help those on their educational journey and it goes like this... Today, let's pause to acknowledge the immense potential residing within you. You possess the capacity to accomplish extraordinary feats and turn your aspirations into tangible realities. It's time to tap into that inner reservoir of strength and seize control of your destiny. Bear in mind, every stride you take toward your objectives, regardless of how modest, propels you closer to triumph.
View challenges as stepping stones for personal evolution, and never underestimate your capacity to surmount barriers. Maintain unwavering focus on your dreams and continue advancing, even in the face of adversity. Your tenacity and adaptability will see you through any trial. Have faith in yourself and your capabilities. You possess all the tools necessary to craft the life you envision. Let's reignite that spark within you and pursue your ambitions with fervor and resolve! You're fully equipped for this journey!
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