does anyone know which cleps overlap in Empire college? Which fulfill requirements and which they might decide to shave off my degree plan, if I am going for psychology?
I am scheduled this week for sociology, but it seems to be just an extra and not an actual prerequisite to anything specific, I think I'd rather do a history or math, I took psychology and Bio already...
anyway I'd appreciate someone with experience to help me thanks
dina

This is the first DANTES I've done, and I'm nervous about not having a practice exam. I've gone over IC about 4 times per section and usually miss an average of about 3 questions. However, once I'm away from the screen I get buddhism, hinduism and confucianism greatly mixed up.

::bites nails nervously::

I'm a Christian, so the Christianity part is a breeze. I'm quite familiar with Judaism also, since I have Jewish friends and Christianity overlaps some with Judaism. And I've studied Islam off and on several different times, so I'm relatively comfortable with that.

But the eastern religions really have me anxious. I've gone through about half of the "Compact Guide To World Religions" and have also gone through some notes someone else sent me. I'm making my own abbreviated set of notes. But I'm still nervous.

My test is on Tuesday and I think I'll *probably* do okay, but if anyone wants to give me an e-pat on the head and reassure me a little, or give me some additional tips on the test, I wouldn't mind.

Hey All - I just took the CLEP "Info System & Comp App" test. I needed a 50 and I got a 49! Bummers! I studied for it but the test had some questions in it with regard to spreedsheets and such (Excel). I am a CJ major not an IT major so to me it was a foriegn language. The test asked a lot of questions about the different systems (Operating System, Mgmt Info System, Comp Based Info System, Decision Support System) it also asked about specific project phases and the responsabilities of the individuals involved (ie:System analyst, database admin, project leader).....yeah a lot of info and I thought Humanities was bad! It also asked about different phases of a project (planning phase, program design).Like I said if I used excel or was into IT than I would have been ok but hey I will be taking a DSST on Wednesday. This is my LAST 3 units so I am trying to get it done!!! Hope the info helps!!
-Felicia

In another thread, I found a great resource to help supplement my studies for the DSST Drug and Alcohol Abuse test:

Drugs, Society, and Human Behavior

I was wondering if anyone had used something similar for thw Fundamentals of Counseling test. Thanks!

anyone here knows if Clep Trigonometry is accepted at Excelsior?

i would appreciate your help, thanks!

Well, admittedly not the most difficult exam that CLEP has to offer, but I’ll take the three hours nonetheless. But its one of those exams that can lull you into a false sense of security if you let it.

I made a 71 with two weeks of study at about 3 hours a day. There were a few days I studied for 6 hours. If you have seen my other post you know that I am a big believer in being over prepared.

I can say with confidence that you should be able to pass this exam with the Instacert flashcards and no other study material, but I must admit I also used the REA Principles of Management book because I wanted a high score.

I can only guess how much higher my score was because of the extra study material, but the practice exams were also very detailed in their explanations and by the time I had memorized 95% of the questions I was very confident going into the exam. I was a little surprised that my score wasn’t a little higher, but I may be getting a little cocky as this was my 9th CLEP exam.

So what to expect? If you know anything about the history and basics of management then you will have a head start. Its definitely weighted towards theories so know Maslow, Drucker, Barnard, Weber, McGregor, Fayol, Herzberg and several others.

You will also need to know the definition of specific terms such as planning, organizing, staffing, controlling and directing. Basically just like all the other jargon laden professions. The material seems overwhelming at first because there are over three hundred questions and the REA book contains another two hundred, though many of them are the same questions.

The only caveat I would add is to really know all of the terms because many of the them are very similar and kind of seem to intertwine with one another, i.e., the definition of controlling and planning are very similar and you can easily use one definition for the other, but the exam is very specific as to the correct terms.

I must admit that I’m not very good at imparting exam information and I hope I haven’t discouraged anyone because this is a very basic and straight forward exam. I will not call it easy because you really need to know a lot of different names and the theories they proposed along with their unique terms.

Regards, Jay


CLEPS


American Government 62
U.S. History I 58
U.S. History II 64
Intro Psychology 56
Humanities 51
Info Systms & Com App 60
Intro Sociology 73
Principles of Marketing 69
Principles of Management 71

I was trying to figure out how many questions I would need to get right to achieve a certain score. So far, everything I have read about the CLEP scoring method states that it is a weighted score, and that it is shrouded in mystery.

Analyze this:

FACT: The lowest possible score is a 20. The hight possible is an 80.

FACT: Approx. 1/2 the questions on the test must be successfully answered to get a 50, or a pass.


Now, the hypothesis: In a 100 question test, such as Sociology and many others, there are only 60 possible points (between 20-80) for 100 questions.

60 points divided by 100 questions = .6pts

If each questions is worth .6 points, 50 correct questions = 50q X .6pts = 30pts

You must add 20 since 0 correct questions = 20pts.

30 points + 20 points = 50 points, or a pass.

Now:

If each point in a 100 question test is worth .6 points, 100 questions X .6 points = 60; 60 + 20 = 80.

By this formula, answering 75 questions correctly would translate to a score of 65.

What do y'all think?

I passed my first clep test. It was not easy, but I squeezed by with a 51. I have to be honest though. I knew those questions backwards and forwards, but I dont think there were more than 30 or so of the Instacert questions on there. Is this going to be the case of all tests that I attempt?

TIm

In my very first post in this forum back on February 4th of this year, I had about 22 old community college credits and I was trying to obtain an AAS from Excelsior. Four months later I have a total of about 86 credits and am only a few credits shy of becoming a senior in college. I averaged 16 credits per month over the last four months. It's no BA in 4 weeks--but I was moving at a pretty good clip. Also in my first post, I asked if there was anyone who had any advice re. credit by exam from community colleges. Turns out, no one did--but our fearless leader, Steve, replied saying that it sounded like an interesting approach and asked me to follow up with the results. Well, I spent the last three days testing out of five (5) classes for a total of twelve (12) credits. You can check my signature for details--but suffice to say that I'm a life-long musician and they were all music classes. Rather than make an impossibly long post (as I'm want to do) I'll just highlight the aspects of this experience that I think are either interesting or helpful.

-Work with your counselor and fill out all the paperwork first. Everyone at my college seemed inclined to help--BUT NO ONE ASKS THEM FOR CREDIT BY EXAM so they often didn't know what to do. So, if my experience is typical, you may be breaking new ground and leading the way.

-Ask nicely and explain your goal. One of the teachers said he agreed to let me test out of two of his classes primarily because of my email describing my goals.

-Be prepared for some resentment. A couple of the teachers appeared to resent the concept that their class was so easy/unimportant/inconsequential that I thought I could just take a test and should get full credit. Again, explaining your goal helps here.

-I had to fill out a form for each class. Each form required approval by the dean of the arts, the department head, the instructor, the admissions office and the counseling office. I should've received at least a couple of credits for advanced signature gathering.

-One teacher initially told me he couldn't help because he was only part-time and was only compensated for his regular classes and nothing beyond. I told him that I would like him to reconsider and that I would compensate him if that would help. Now, this was via email and the department head was copied on both emails. The teacher then replied to me only--saying that he would do it but I would have to buy a CD for the class for $15. Well, I showed up and he gave me the Guitar Studies I final exam for a total of less than five minutes. Then, he got up and got his CD OF HIM PLAYING HIS GUITAR--SOFT JAZZ and shamelessly charged me $15 for it. I considered running it over in the parking lot--but my mom always said that two wrongs don't make a right.

-I ended up doing it when everyone was taking finals, which was helpful, but I did have to take two full days off of work to do it.

To give you an idea of what this functionally entailed, here's a class by class description:

Society and Rock & Roll
The teacher made me take the final which was five (5) essay questions in one hour. My hand was killing me when I was done. He also made me take the mid-term which was ten (10) essay questions in a little over an hour. He told me the book they used in the class and I quickly reviewed it before the exam.

Fundamentals of Music
I took a one and a half page final which took about twenty minutes. Then the teacher, who spoke little English, started suggesting that she couldn't give me an A in the class--despite receiving a 96 on the final, because I hadn't completed classwork. I explained the concept of credit by exam to her and then she decided that if I composed an eight bar song, she could do it. So I sat there for another twenty minutes and composed an eight bar song (a hit I'm sure!) and she gave me an A for the course.

Guitar Studies I and II
Guitar Studies I was the teacher that made me buy his CD. Final exam consisted of some note sight-reading and some chords. Took about five minutes......and $15. Got an A for my money anyway. Guitar Studies II I took the final which consisted mostly of building guitar chords on paper and....no playing. Got 100% on the test and an A for the course.

Bass Guitar Studies I
This guy was tough. He made me play bass to Autumn Leaves in a variety of styles and wanted me to play the altered tones and everything. THEN, he had me read a pretty tough bass chart. I'm a guitar player so I have to transpose in my head when playing bass. I don't know what grade he gave me but I know I passed.

My school charged an extra $9 per credit for this--so the tests were $29 per credit instead of $20. Still ended up costing almost exactly what the CLEP tests cost per exam. My advice for anyone that wants to try this is to closely follow the instructions on the form and the advice of the counseling office. Be polite and grateful. Know that there are people in the process that likely have never done this before. Don't take no for an answer. Politely state your case and be persistent.

These 12 credits qualify as Humanities towards my BGB degree. If anyone has any questions regarding the process, please feel free to reply and I'll do my best to answer.

Hi,
This is my first post and I really enjoy this forum. I just enrolled at Excelsior a week ago and I am very close to graduating (I think I have around 108 hours or so maybe 111) and I want to sign up for the Social Science and History clep. I am a liberal arts major with Excelsior. I just want to make sure I'll receive credit for passing the exam before I sign up. I can wait a few weeks to get an offical answer from EC, but I'm very eager to finish by July. Also, will I receive 6 hours from EC?
I've taken intro to psych clep, western civ 2 clep and I took intro to sociology and american history 1 and 2 at a brick and mortar school. I just want to see if anyone knows if EC will say I am duplicating classes?

Thanks so much!!